In Search of Tartaria Pt. 2

Attempting To Explain The Absurd

This post is part two in a series of articles on Tartaria. If you haven’t, I suggest first reading the original post to get an idea of the history of Tartaria before reading today’s overview of some points that make up the grand Tartaria theory.

The internet is now awash with Tartaria and its related theories. To even try to explain the theory borders on dancing with the schizophrenic. To briefly summarize it, to the best of my ability:

Tartaria was a recently lost semi-nomadic globe-spanning empire responsible for most technological advances of the 19th and 20th centuries but was destroyed in some sort of cataclysmic event in the 19^th century by the other world leaders related to our current day cabal. This cataclysmic event caused widespread “mud floods” that erased much of the old world. This led to a large number of abandoned children that had to be shipped around the world for repopulation efforts aboard “orphan trains”. Tartarians were responsible for building much of the Old World architecture that existed up until the turn of the 20th century. Most of the architecture was destroyed to hide their greatness, though some remnants remained. They also had electricity and other energy sources well beyond our current means in the past and it was all available free to the populace. They may have been giants (8-9ft), descended from an even older race of giants, possibly Atlantean, that were ridiculously large (think 50-100ft or more). The Cabal wanted to use their awesome technology to control the populace and slowly re-introduced Tartarian technology through the use of World Fairs around the turn of the 20^th century. World Fairs of the late 19th to early 20th centuries were in fact the aforementioned remnants of the Tartarian Empire, market towns and cities. The populace in the early 20^th century was told the buildings were fake, so all the buildings could be destroyed after the fairs. All of this can be tied into potentially larger theories, such as there was an ancient race of extraterrestials that mined the Earth, creating everything in the natural landscape we see today. Mountains for instance are just piles of gravel from the mines, canyons are actually mines and giant stone formations are actually petrified giant trees. The ancient Atlanteans overthrew them and the Tartarians are descended from them, inheriting their technology and utopic ideals and L. Ron Hubbard is kicking himself he didn’t come up with anything this cool.

Such is the common theory of Tartaria today. Even then I feel like that’s only aspects of the total theory. Tartaria itself really is a memetic idea, an organic growth out of our own fears and awe of achievements from the ancestors of our past. New ideas are constantly folded in or discarded, so who knows where the theory will stand in another year or two. Or, perhaps like other strange and bewildering conspiracies, Tartaria will fall out of mainstream interest and be relegated to the era of alien abductions and little men from Mars as we embrace something new and more exciting.

To point out the absurdities of the modern Tartaria theory is to point out why one should not pour bleach in one’s eyes. It is to state the obvious. The very idea of Tartaria today is only rudimentarily connected to the original Russian ideas of Tartaria and has been warped to a such a degree as to make it, like many other things in the West, too large and unwieldy to fully comprehend. This essentially makes Tartaria too big to fail. It is very nearly an attempt at a Grand Unification Theory, not dissimilar to Fomenko’s idea but with wildly different results. It is a “bits-and-bobs” theory that takes a little bit from one place, an idea from another, a quote from someone at some time and paints a picture over the painting that was already hung in place.

So, let us take a look at the various bits and bobs and see if there is anything to make out of them. The theory as a whole is largely nonsensical because the various ideas that comprise the total theory are frequently based off erroneous assumptions of how the past worked. That or just outright fabrications.

Semi-Nomadic Globalists

Let us begin with the idea of a lost semi-nomadic globe-spanning empire existing in the late 1800s. Why semi-nomadic in the first place? An old holdover from the original theory I suppose, when Tatars followed their Mongol predecessors and had great tent cities that could be picked up and moved if needed. Tatars were hardly an empire though, not in the Western sense of the term. To call them an Empire is to deny them their own history of khanates and hordes and confederations and tribes. The great Central Asiatic tract of land was called Tartary (or some variation) on maps for a while by Westerners, but that hardly meant it was a cohesive nation-state, much less an empire. This is just poor understanding of the evolution of the nation-state and the usage of maps throughout history. To say their influence was global is yet a further stretch of the imagination. Mongols certainly had a far-reaching influence, even to this day millions of men can lay claim to Genghis Khan as an ancestor through genetics, but they left behind no great architectural feats to be seen on every continent. Neither did the Golden Horde. Neither did the Ottomans or any Siberian natives. We simply cannot hand wave the natives away like Fomenko did and then say someone else existed there instead.

And what of the idea that they existed less than two hundred years ago but then somehow simply disappeared? I believe people forget that the 19^th century is extremely well-documented, comparatively speaking as centuries go. Photographs were everywhere by the late 1800s and have been in use since the early 1800s. The first photograph is from 1826. Granted, its blurry and indistinct, but still. Photography exploded over the next couple decades and by the mid-1800s everything and everyone was being photographed. People were already photographing their cats and food, starting a horrific trend that continues unabated to this day. Cities were well filmed in the late 1800s and early 1900s, especially European cities. To promote films, “actualities” would be filmed in a town or a city during the day. This was a sort of proto-documentary that merely filmed passerbys or conveyances such as trains and automobiles. The film would then be shown that night at a local theater and everyone in town would stop by and, for a small fee, see themselves on film before seeing some trick films or short comic films. Cities were photographed in the mid-1800s but with different results. Due to the long exposure times required by the photography technology of the era, many people simply don’t show up on landscape photographs.

Old photographs are the bread and butter of the Tartarian believers, yet they must twist the very nature of the photographs or claim complete ignorance on the technicalities of the technology in order for the theory to work. Take the city photographs of the mid-1800s for example. The absence of people to those who believe in Tartaria mean that the cities are actually devoid of citizens. A great war or plague or horrific event must have occurred and wiped out the population of all major cities across every continent. The very concept of long exposures seems to be ignored outright. I cannot believe that the people who pour over the photos believe they were taken the same way as our instantaneous digital photos, but perhaps they do. But yet the old photos show things that simply do not exist any longer. Old buildings, huge buildings! Everywhere! With giant doors and an awesome grandeur that our brutalist Starbucks and Wal-Marts simply can’t compete with, let alone our churches or public buildings. Someone grand and fearsome must have built such great monuments. This ignores of course, that we once believed all buildings should be grand as to inspire awe and pride in one’s culture. But what of the layers of mud around all the buildings?

Mud Floods

The very concept of mud floods was the one thing that made me immediately suspicious of the entire theory. Because what the hell is it? I’m not even a geologist, but the very idea of a global “mud flood” is such a bizarre one that, short of an actual global flood, it is impossible to fathom how it would even work. A localized flood with mud in it is a normal occurrence of course -- think of volcanic explosions like Mt. St. Helens which pushed half a mountainside down and liquefied the earth with devastating results. That sort of thing seldom if ever leaves a building standing perfectly intact however. A lot of rain will make a river or creek bed rise and bring the silt along with it, leaving behind a sort of muddy layer after the floodwaters recede back to their normal state. That can be hugely devastating, but will often leave buildings behind and a noticeable layer of mud and silt that will need to be removed. This is almost certainly one of the main reasons that a great number of old buildings and cities have “mud layers” that can be excavated or were excavated out in the past. There is no reason to hypothesize that some great war happened leading to some strange weapon being used leading to some strange occurrence happening to make mud go everywhere. That goes beyond reaching for threads that aren’t there and more like trying to pick the cotton to make the threads from a field full of corn.

The fact is simple; most cities were built near rivers and other sources of water. Those rivers flood. After a period of several hundred years, this frequent occurrence leaves behind noticeable layers. Also, parts of the city may be abandoned to the elements and reclaimed later. This is part of the natural process of any city’s lifespan, especially European cities where many of them have been around for well over a thousand years. Cities may also be destroyed, either by a legitimate war or a fire or other such disaster. They are often rebuilt on the same spot. Think of any archeological dig on an ancient site in Egypt, Greece or the Middle East. City sites like Jericho have multiple layers of cities to dig through because of the multiple civilizations that built a city on that exact same spot. Great fires are also common in old cities, particularly those in the US that were built haphazardly and early on almost entirely out of wooden materials. Whether or not such fires were started by cows kicking over lanterns in barns, some other accident or started purposely is something that could perhaps be debated. But you lose me entirely if the suggestion is made the fires were started to destroy vestigial evidence of a global Tartarian empire.

No one occurrence caused all of the cities globally to be destroyed. Several cities have been destroyed many times over throughout the thousands of years and many cities simply haven’t been destroyed at all. To pick and choose the major cities (the ones with the best photographs), show evidence of some calamity, then lump them all together into one horrible happenstance is reminiscent of Fomenko’s hand-waving destruction of thousands of years of history. The most basic archeology or a cursory glance at the many, many record books kept in such cities would immediately disprove such accusations.

As an aside, I always wonder about the Asian cities myself. I never see a very old Chinese city like Beijing used in the many “look at these photographs” YouTube videos. Every now and then I will see buildings from Colonial British rule used in places like India or somewhere in Southeast Asia, but they are never Asiatic buildings. Or are we to assume that the Asians appeared on the stage less than 150 years ago and faked the longest empirical records in humanity’s history and produced all of their buildings in that short of a span? Any self-respecting Chinaman, Japanese or Korean would surely balk at such an idea. The Tartaria idea is always noticeably only leveled at American and European “Old World” architecture. Put a pin in that because we’re circling back to it at the end.

Orphan Trains

Sometimes, real world events are used and twisted into something supportive of the massive Tartaria theory. Orphan trains is one such historical event that has very recently been grafted onto the theory as support for a global cataclysmic war and its aftermath. The theory of course is that Tartaria was at one point destroyed in the past. There is no direct evidence for any such global war or destruction so other small events from the past are used as circumstantial evidence to support the theory. Mud floods are one such bit of evidence used to support a large-scale catastrophe, though we can easily see that fall apart with the basic question of how. Orphan trains were however an actual thing that happened, at least here in the US. It was a rather small and short-lived program from a bygone era, one of the first eras where the idea of social justice really got its start as “social reform”. A sort of early precursor to today’s foster care system, the Orphan Train Movement was a program started by charitable institutions and placed orphans from East Coast cities into Midwestern families and farms. At least, at its heart, that was the idea. There are always the arguments that follow such sociological endeavors on just how successful the idea was in actuality and whether the children needed placement at all. I am of the opinion that, while it may have certainly helped placed orphans and abused children into caring families, it was also done to help Midwestern farms gain more labor. A practical solution with a heart of gold if you will.

Tartaria believers use the Orphan Train Movement as proof of a great displacement of peoples after a war or horrific event. “Why were there so many orphans in the first place?” they ask. What about all the other institutions that popped up in the mid to late 1800s, asylums and poorhouses and workhouses and street gangs? Surely this is evidence of some sort of 1800s ruling power wishing to dispose of enemy people or claim various people as their own and work them into their own citizenry.

Like the mudfloods, this is looking for a fantastical answer when there are many normal yet boring answers out there. The Industrial Revolution’s effect on transitioning largely agrarian societies into urban-centric hellscapes cannot be overstated. It is impossible to go into detail the amount of change the western world went through as families, villages, towns, cities, everything changed in the span of a couple decades. Then continued to radicalize over the next couple decades. The term frequently used is overpopulation, but in truth, it was more like an early corporacracy controlling every aspect of people’s lives, transitioning them from largely independent craftsmen, tradesmen and farmers into worker drones. We speak now of Google and Amazon’s control over its workforce, doing everything from denying bathroom breaks to planning and building worker housing on their properties to keep their workers “happy” and nearby. This was often the norm in the early Industrial Revolution. Being a factory worker was to be a neo-feudal peasant. You were told when to wake, when to eat, when to sleep, where to live and how to live. Women and children were extra mouths to feed and if they were unable to be used as extra workers, they were tossed out.

In the late 18^th and 19^th centuries, this was common. Common enough that by the early and middle 19^th century calls for social reform began in England and spread from there. Much would not be done until the mid-late 19^th century, with organizations like the Orphan Train Movement and the Salvation Army being formed and other similar “humanitarian” endeavors. The neo-feudalistic approach to factory and industrial work was diminished over the decades, though it never entirely disappeared. Henry Ford famously tried to build his own industrial city in Brazil, Fordlandia, without much success. And of course we have Google planning worker cities now and Bill Gates buying up millions of acres of farmland, but we digress into the present.

Just as a further aside, I do find the 19^th century hugely fascinating and there are so many events that are skipped over today in history lessons that I feel should not be ignored. Worker cities are one such occurrence and they are surprisingly closely related to communes, another type of community on the rise in the mid-1800s. Then there are the social reformers, the Naturalists, the Marxists, the Transcendentalists, all of whom influenced the formation of communes and factories in some ways. Coupled with the growing splintering of Protestantism in the US and British Empire and the increase of secularism and occultism, the era to me speaks of a larger gathering of evil influence with devastating effects that can be felt all the way to the present. That being said, none of that in any way points to the destruction of a great lost Tartarian empire and a necessity for re-populating a devastated Earth. Nor does it speak to such an empire having access to great technological advances, far beyond our own current day technology.

Free Energy Fireplaces

Free energy and fantastical theories on ancient technology are nothing new. Most believers in the Ancient Aliens theory say that the great megalithic structures were built by aliens using technology that we cannot even begin to fathom, because how else would a bunch of Stone Age people hoist enormous tons of rocks into place? And if you do not believe in extraterrestrial influence, you can have your pick of other theories. You may instead believe in some ancient Atlantean or Hyperborean society that had technology far beyond our own which made them capable of building a global empire, only for them to get carried away by their own greed and destroyed by some sense of karmic justice or a catastrophic event. Take these ancient space-age technology theories and now carry them forward a few millennia to drop them off roughly two hundred years in our own past and we have the Tartarian technology.

The fantastical technology aspect of the theory was in use at least back to the Russian days of the Tartaria idea. As stated before, while researching this article I came across a whole circle of Russian livejournals (remember that site?) from the mid-2010s where they discussed strange structural bits and wondered whether or not there was a network of free energy in old Russia/Tartary. Bits of metal stuck to roofs, antennae, weathervanes, ornamental décor; what are these if not elements of some complex energy system we can no longer comprehend? Fireplaces even. Why exactly were they so large anyway? That surely wasn’t very effective for heating a house.

It’s a tempting theory, especially if we are trying to paint a grand vision of our past to give ourselves some hope for our own greatness in the present. Still, I hardly think such things are evidence of some sort of Tesla-like free energy that powered an ancient Tartarian technodrome. Modern theorists look at old buildings and suggest that this free energy was somehow prevalent everywhere in the past and not just limited to one country or even continent. Wherever Tartaria was, there was the energy, and Tartaria was apparently everywhere. Just follow the photographs!

Unfortunately, one does not need to believe in a far-reaching mythical empire to see that energy indeed was everywhere by the late 1800s, though it wasn’t free of course. Many cities across Europe had electric street lamps by the 1880s. Before electricity, there were cable cars and steam locomotives and running water powered by pneumatics and hydraulics all over the Western world. And what of the telegraphs, already having enormous wiring and pole systems across the American West by the 1850s? By the 1850s undersea cables had already been laid to send telegrams across continents. Of course old photographs will show wires and cables. And not far behind the telegraph came the telephone, commonplace commercially and growing rapidly residentially by the late 1800s. All of these can be seen in photos of old cities but none lend credence to any form of secret free energy.

Yes, research was done in free energy, with Nikolai Tesla probably being the most famous today. And much could be stated whether or not the research into free energy was squashed by businessmen, those moneymakers looking to squeeze more profits out of the people. The history of the patent wars alone from the 1800s are fascinating enough to read. That’s a real mystery and one that has somehow been grafted onto this behemoth of Tartaria alongside everything else.

Read on to star forts, 19th century architecture, and alien giants…